Wednesday, 7 May 2014

Ukraine as Yugoslavia?

The former Yugoslavia and the current independent nations that emerged after 1991 collapse. Photo originally from BBC.
From 40 protesters burned alive in a trade union office in Odessa, Ukraine some say by Neo Nazis linked with Svoboda to heavy handed military force against protesters and self appointed city defenders in the town of Slayvansk, Eastern Ukraine appears to be resembling prologue to Yugoslavia or Balkan Wars circa 1912. The port city of Odessa seats on the Black Sea in Southeastern Ukraine not far from Crimea.

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The comparison between Ukraine and the collapse of Yugoslavia in the early 1990s isn't too far from reality. The parallels are gradually emerging in Ukraine. Yugoslav leaders and politicians used nationalism to their advantage with the aid of media propaganda while demonizing their internal and foreign enemies. Slobadan Milosevic, Yugoslavian army and leaders of Republika Srpska leaders installed nationalist officials in government to strength their stronghold on their positions and assure their supporters and the larger public that nationalism equals national unity and strength. The Croatian leader Franjo Tudjman also pushed nationalism and a Croatian identity based on ethnic purity ignoring the decades of multiculturalism and Croatia's multiethnic society. Tudjman and other Croatian nationalists took their inspiration from the Utasha that served under Nazi controlled Croatia during World War II. Croatian and Serbian nationalists displaced, dispossessed and killed their neighbors and even family members while destroying Croatia and Bosnia. Slovenia experience only ten days of war before peace was restored. Slovenia is home to a small Serb minority but Slovene nationalism didn't involve displacing fellow countrymen. Slovenia bypassed the violence and massacres occurring in Croatia's Krajina region, the medieval cities of Dubrovnik, Zagreb. The violence included football and street clashes and bombardments of historical cities by Yugoslav army made up of mostly Serb soldiers from Belgrade and other regions of Serbia and Bosnia. Dehumanizing language and images further transformed the Yugoslav war of independence into "tribal" conflicts or ancient ethnic hatreds. Serbs, Bosnians and Croats like Russians and Ukrainians are similar people, they speak the same language once called Serbo-Croatian with slightly different words and follow the same religion Christianity albeit Serbs are East Orthodox and Croats are Catholics. Bosnia remains the most multiethnic and diverse former Yugoslav republics. Many Bosnians are intermarried and Bosniaks (incorrectly categorized as ethnic Muslims) are a separate and majority ethnic group in Bosnia. However, the Bosniaks share similar language and history with their Christian countrymen. Despite the clashes and cries against the referendum, Crimea didn't experience massive violence as Bosnia did for its independence in 1991. A combination of sieges by Yugoslavia army against the Bosnian capital Sarajevo and the medieval city of Mostar, NATO weapons sanctions against Bosnian army, destroyed Bosnia's infrastructure and displaced most of Bosnian people. Fueling the collapse of Bosnia were massacres against civilians first by the Serb dominated Yugoslav army and later Serb rebels from Republica Srpska. The UN's last minute intervention at the height of the war ended the violence but didn't heal the shattered country. Mostar's famous Ottoman bridge was destroyed and rebuilt, ethnic cleansing of whole neighborhoods and regions (now occurring in Central African Republic) has left the country divided to this day. Bosnia's peace came after the country was partitioned into two separate entities the Bosnian-Croat federation and the Replica Srpska to appease all the parties involved to the chagrin of Bosnia's diverse society. Some media pundits and experts now see Bosnia as unable to undo the physical and societal damages caused by Yugoslav Civil War. Lastly, Kosovo was sucked into shorter but just as deadly war between U.S. backed Kosovar Liberation Army and Serbian Army in 1999. NATO bombing of Serbian capital Belgrade became the pretext for future pre-emptive strikes against countries deemed a threat to a Western ally or a threat regional stability as Serbia was seen by Western observers and neighboring countries Greece, Albania, Hungary. Today the former Yugoslavia is seven different countries resembling little of its former self. Croatia became an EU member last year after a decade of political, economic and structural reforms. Slovenia 2004, while Bosnia and Serbia are hoping to become EU members in the distance future. Ukraine is currently split unevenly between pro European Union membership and a EU future and the BRICS' economic and political challenge to EU/US domination of European politics and local events.

War bombing the medieval city of Dubrovnik, Croatia

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Ukraine's violence is slowly transforming into a civil war in the same vein as Yugoslavia. All the while the EU, Canada and US watch while blaming Russia for the violent escalation by protesters and Ukrainian government. Russia argues that the protesters have a right to autonomy after feeling threatened.

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Fascism didn't die but lives today

The Utashe were the Croatian local fascist/nazi forces and political organization responsible for the genocide of Serbs, Yuglosvian Jews, Romani and Croatian dissidents across Croatia and Bosnia. In a quest to build a so called "1,000 year Reich," Adolph Hitler calculating expanded the borders of the Third Reich from France to Greece and Croatia. Spain and Switzerland were one of the few countries in Europe other than Yugoslavia minus Croatia that remained natural throughout the second world war. While Yugoslavs in Serbia, Montenegro, Slovenia and parts of Bosnia fought against the Nazis and fascists forces in Yugoslavia, Croatian nationalist leaders seeking to keep Croatia independent from capitulated to Nazi rule. Neighboring Fascist Italy, a long time influence on Croatia's culture and language soon fell to Nazi occupation in 1941. Fascism and Nazism didn't disappear into the history books at the end of World War II. Both movements have been given breathes of fresh air throughout the latter half of the 20th century. Today neo Nazis and fascism is tragically making a comeback across Europe especially in Western countries via parliamentary victories and popular right wing leaders enjoying support from a frustrated public. In the U.S. there is an obsession with Hitler and Nazism. American historians and pundits have studied Nazism and Hitler's rise, its influences in society, Hitler's mind and have personified him into the devil to further understand how fascism/Nazism can occur.

The current U.S. backed Ukrainian government has also allowed leaders and members from Svoboda and Pravy Sector to hold high offices and have seats in Parliament. Members of both groups have been involved in violence against Pro federalist protesters in several towns in Eastern Ukraine ie Slayvansk, Donetsk, Odessa and Kharkov. The Pro federalist (originally dubbed Pro Russian by the Ukrainian government and media pundits) protesters have been calling for a federalist form of autonomy that would respect the rights of residents living in Eastern Ukraine, protect the Russian language from being banning and cultural protection.The violent clashes have continued ranging from confrontation between pro/anti Kiev and Maidan supporters to running street battles among Ukrainian police and Russian speaking Ukrainians as well. Now the continual anti-terror campaign by the Ukrainian Army against protesters in Slayvansk and Odessa, has critically injured and killed civilians. The army has prevented civilians from leaving Slayvansk. Some pundits have forgotten that the pro Russian protesters in Eastern Ukraine are also Ukrainians who have family living in both Russia and Ukraine. Many Ukrainian speakers also live in Eastern and southern Eastern towns as well. Kiev and Western governments have been watching the escalation of violence with clenched teeth. Sanctions have been ratcheted up against Russia in hopes of denting its economy. Keep in mind most of Russia's gas exports pass underneath Ukraine and other neighboring countries directly to the EU who rely on Russian gas in addition to oil/petroleum from Norway and North African countries. Kharkov's mayor Gennady Kernes is currently recuperating in an Israeli hospital after being shot in the back by an unknown assassin.

Caught on tape: Radicals shooting at Odessa Trade Unions' building

As President Turchynov struggles to keep Ukraine calm, he has appeared to overlook the anti-Semitic and anti-Russian violence from small but growing Neo Nazi political parties and groups in Maidan and elsewhere. The Neo Nazis have aimed their violent threats against Ukrainian Jews who were once one of the largest Jewish communities in Eastern Europe after Poland's large Jewish community. Today, Ukrainian Jews are a minority whose community has survived peacefully within the country for decades after the Holocaust and World War II. Despite keeping to themselves, Jews along with some Russian speakers are viewed as scapegoats (fed by old anti-Semitic and anti-Soviet stereotypes) by the less open minded Pravy Sector/Svoboda members and supporters. The outright violence against Russian symbols, influences and protesters (who are Ukrainians) in East Ukraine, Crimea and in Kiev and Western Ukraine. Ukrainian soldiers being trapped inside their bases while Russian soldiers spread out across Crimean cities has further confirmed the Neo Nazis fear of a Russian takeover or war on lines of South Ossetia or something worst. For the Maidan protesters like the Yugoslavs no one outside Yugoslavia or Ukraine could control their destiny other than themselves. Even Poland who has quietly watched the events unfolded in Ukraine has also experience anti-Russian protests. Russia is well aware that its army or actions are not welcomed by the Kiev government or its supporters. The media frenzy set up by the United States and its allies has exacerbated the anger toward Russian interests among Neo Nazi groups, Pro- Western Maidan protesters and Ukrainians who are apolitical but are determined to shape Ukraine's future on their own.

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1991 Yugoslavia: Roots of War

*As leader of Yugoslavia from 1945 until his death in 1980. Josip Tito had held Yugoslavia together by empathizing national unity and social cohesion across ethnic and religious lines. However, crimes committed by Utasha, SS collaborators in Bosnia/Croatia during World War II never healed. The grievances were generally ignored Tito. The IMF's structural adjustment programs after Tito's death and Yugoslavian economy's slowly crippled the country. The Yugoslav identity maintained until 1991 as each of the six republics declared independence from literally the North to East. 


  1. You seem to believe to much mainstream news and propaganda regarding the Yugoslav war. There were huge lies pushed by the west, which had an agenda from the start and was preparing and aiding separatists even before the war. For example, the British sold and secretly sent Slovenia millions of dollars worth of military communications equipment just before the wars started. Yet the British were officially giving lip service that they wanted to keep Yugoslavia intact. But U.S. and other western diplomats were secretly meeting with Croat, Bosnian Muslim, and other leaders, telling them they wouldn't interfere if they started separatism and war.

    You leave out Bosnian Muslim leader Alija Izetbegovic who was a pro-Nazi youth in WWII. The Bosnian Muslims were a special project of Himmler and formed pro-Nazi divisions. The west hides their history, though a good research you can turn up plenty of details and pictures even.

    Also, Alija Izetbegovic wrote a book in the early 1970's called the "Islamic Declaration" which stated that Muslims couldn't co-exist within the same state as other religions - that the Muslim religion had to dominate to exist properly.
    He and several other men were also jailed in the early 1980's (so before Milosevic) for plotting against the country (Yugoslavia). They were seeking help from other Muslim states and even radical Islamic groups for an independent Bosnia even then.

    Also, there was a huge weapons flow into Bosnia despite the sanctions. Weapons were being smuggled in through many channels - some of the largest disguised as "humanitarian aid" - and one of these was connected with Osama bin Laden.
    Slovenia was exporting or serving as a conduit throughout the entire war - with some of it actually starting BEFORE the war.

    The Bosnian Muslims had the largest army - the largest infantry - within Bosnia by a multiple factor. They were 200,000 strong versus a Bosnian Serb army estimated around 40,000.

    Then there was the Croatian army from Croatia (not Bosnian Croats) which were 40,000-strong and stationed there throughout the entire war. It was an open secret among UN personnel that Croatia had its forces there.

    Initially the Croats and Muslims cooperated at killing Serbs. The first massacre of the war was of Serbian civilians in Sijekovac [26. March 1992, Sijekovac – the very first war crime in Bosnia was commited in Sijekovac]

    And these were all civilians, including a number of children. They were killed by both Bosnian Muslims and Croats - so those groups were not innocent from the very start (or even pre-start).

    Also, Bosnian Muslims kept Serb civilians (and then later some Croats) in grain silo concentration camps. Research the Silo at Tarcin. It was one of the worst.
    The Croats and Muslims then had a war against each other which had some of the most intense fighting in the war and left Mostar the most destroyed city in all of Bosnia-Herzegovina.

    The media would show dead Serbs (and they are fully identified as Serbs) and claim they were Croats or Bosnian Muslims. CNN clipped out the Serbian Orthodox Priest from a broadcast of a funeral of Serbian children killed on a bus early in the Bosnian war and claimed they were Muslim children.

    Muslims killed Serbs and even made video tapes and a commander showed these clips and bragged of this to western reporters John Pomfret of the Washington Times and Bill Schiller of the Toronto Star - yet this evidence is kept from the ICTY to get Muslim criminals off the hook. The court is just a political weapon against the Serbs with a few token Muslims and Croats thrown in to give it a veneer of being fair. It is not and the court has no penalty for perjury.

  2. Also UN officers did witness the Bosnian Muslims staging and provoking attacks - including attacks which killed Sarajevo civilians, including children. One such attack came during former British diplomat Lord Owen's visit. The Bosnian Muslims were staging many attacks during his tour and then claiming Serbs were doing them - only he and the UN soldiers providing security realized it was the locals (Muslims) behind them.
    The Bosnian Muslim forces timed a mortar attack right when he was getting out of his vehicle (an attack which killed Sarajevo civilians) and then came up to him claiming Serbs did this to them everyday.
    Only he heard the LAUNCHING of that attack and could tell it was close "less than 200 meters" away and therefore put it totally in territory controlled by the Bosniak forces.
    So they did bomb and snipe Sarajevo civilians for political reasons and knowing Serbs would be blamed by the mainstream media and it would be used as an excuse by key western governments backing the break up of Yugoslavia.
    Also UN reports blame the Sarajevo government for interfering with the utilities more than the fighting. As well, the reports show the Sarajevo government wasn't distributing most all the food the UN was sending in. Over 30% of it was going to the army or black market, while 60% wasn't being distributed at all and the UN believes the government was stockpiling it.
    So that just goes to show that any food shortages weren't because food wasn't getting it, it definitely was, but the Sarajevo government was hoarding it away from the people, as well as greatly interfering with any repairs or help with utilities because it wanted to project a much greater picture of suffering to sell the war and make the other side look guilty.

    Sarajevo also had paramilitary killing Sarajevo Serb civilians from the very start. They released a lot of hardened criminals and sicced them on the Serbs. Serbs claim thousands of Sarajevo Serbs were killed and most were murdered - beaten to death, shot, stabbed, etc. and that these are including in Sarajevo totals and the Muslims try to hide the Serbs' deaths under being killed by mortar fire from the Bosnian Serb army when it is not true.
    Survivors and witnesses as well as autopsy evidence shows the Sarajevo Serbs were being killed up close and personal.